The Manhattan Project: Town Hall event with Lyndon LaRouche, September 26, 2015

September 26, 2015

The Manhattan Project: Town Hall Q&A Event with Lyndon LaRouche

Lyndon LaRouche returns to Manhattan! In this week's discussion between Mr. LaRouche and the LPAC Manhattan Project activists, what can we expect from Putin's visit to New York? What does John Boehner's resignation mean? Kepler discusses the harmony of our solar system, but what about the harmony of our galaxy? Do the rest of the star systems in the Milky Way follow the same harmonic proportions as our star system?

Transcript-DENNIS SPEED: My name is Dennis Speed and on behalf the LaRouche Political Action Committee, I want to welcome everybody here, today. You are aware that we are now in the midst of an intervention being done by our organization at the United Nations. It's a momentous occasion. It's one in which we're going to have a set of speeches on Monday, but it's not the speeches and it's not the particulars. The idea, as put forward by Mr. Lyndon LaRouche, is that the United Nations General Assembly can be deployed, if we are successful, to assist us in restoring the U.S. Constitution by demanding Barack Obama be removed from office.

To discuss that and other things, of course, we're going to go right in to ask Lyn for an opening statement and we'll follow it with questions and I'd like the first people to line up, if you know who you are, at the chair there. So Lyn, do you have some opening remarks for us?

LYNDON LAROUCHE: Well, I think so. I think the very fact of this occasion and the circumstances of this occasion are extremely important and relevant at this time. So I think that's it. Just let it go into this thing quickly.

SPEED: Very good. So let's go to the first question.

Q: Good afternoon, Lyn, this is Daniel Burke. This morning, a group of us were down near Times Square with some friends in the Russian American community and we have a large banner welcoming President Putin and President Xi, and it stated "Real Americans want a Win-Win paradigm."  And we, together with our friends and associates and activists, down there, and our rally, of a group of people welcoming them, were covered by a couple of Russian press.  And the question was asked, what is there to be expected of Putin's visit to the United Nations, and the discussion with Obama?

And so I want to out that question to you and give you a chance to answer it:  What will come of Putin's visit?

LAROUCHE: Well, on the question of Obama's role here, this is really doubtful, because Obama is what he is; and what he is, is something that never should have been in the presidency. So, therefore, that's the problem. He hates those who oppose him. He's frightened by this aspect and the more frightened he is the more rage-filled he is. So I don't think you're going to get much of a signal from Obama except in that direction. The reaction that's going to occur between the Obama relationship and other people in this operation, particularly Putin, is going to come after Putin's remarks, not Obama's.

Q: [follow-up] thank you.  We want to make sure that you see the shirt we were wearing out here. This is what our friends distributed, which says "I'm a friend of Putin." And the Russian bear both winking.

LAROUCHE: That's nice.  Oh yes, yes. Bear facts. They're always handy. [laughter]

Q: Good afternoon. This is J__ from Brooklyn! Oh my goodness! I don't know where that came from; from Brooklyn. Okay...

LAROUCHE: Maybe it was a Bronx cheer. [laughter]

Q: Okay. On Thursday, we did a deployment near the St. Patrick's Cathedral area, where the Pope was expected to come into New York City after he had given that shameful speech to Congress earlier in the morning. And so people were gathering, of course there behind the cages they had to keep everybody who had tickets together, and keep everybody else away, but we did very well.

A group of us broke away from the larger deployment and got closer to St. Patrick's and we got all the way to about 49th St. and 5th Ave., which was really great, and we had, of course, our leaflets, our leaflet of the little evil Queen, and how we would say in Brooklyn, "her who.'" [laughter]

So we had our leaflet with us and we also had a very interesting large banner that read "Dear Pope Francis, God Is Right. Schellnhuber Is Wrong," and then the quote from the Bible, "Be fruitful and multiply. Have dominion over the earth and subdue it." And this drew a lot of people over to us, besides the fact that we were telling them to come over to us; and we talked about this climate change hoax.

Now, I have to say that people that came to us or that we talked to while we were handing out the flyers, and holding the banner, some of them did understand, completely, that this climate change things is a hoax.  And then others, they wanted to say "yes, we agree with you, but we just want to have a nice day. You know, the Pope is coming and it's a beautiful day, today, and we really don't want to muddle that up with anything that might be a little hard to take." And so from that situation, we gave out a lot of leaflets, we talked to a lot of people and we made contacts.

It's interesting to note that it's not just a dumbing-down of the population. There's also a prevalent fear of not going along to get along. So with all this pomp and circumstance over the Pope, there are many people who know that what he's saying about climate change is totally wrong and they love the quote from the Bible that we can't just let mother nature run amok,  — but there's still that fear that "I'm not going to say anything" or "I'm not going to go against any thing" or "I'm not going to get involved." That kind of fear.

And this is prevalent in a lot of things, as we know, as organizers and members. It's prevalent in a lot of things that are going on right now besides just the dumbing down of the population. So, I wanted you to comment on that, the climate change hoax, and the scare that is centered around it.

And I also wanted to remind everyone of the FDR 1933 first inaugural address that says, "So first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself, nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance." Thank you.

LAROUCHE: Okay. On the question of this, I've said this before on other occasions but I think it's worth my restating it again, here, on this particular occasion because of the nature of the occasion today.

The point of the matter, is that mankind is not an animal. Nor can mankind be interpreted as if it were an animal. That is not acceptable. The characteristic of mankind involves what follows the death, of a human being. The only thing that does follow the death of a human being, is another human being brought into existence before.  And it's on that basis of the development of mankind's ability, to create a higher condition of the development of mankind which distinguishes mankind from all animals including, well, I could name a number of people who I know, actually qualify in the animal kingdom.

But then, outside the animal kingdom the question is, if you're going to die, and people die eventually; everybody dies eventually in human society. So the question is what comes out of the death? What provides a following, an improvement of mankind, under the conditions of the death of a human being, or human beings in particular? And that is the ability to look at death, as good people and smart people do; really smart people do that. They know death is coming, so what's their explanation of what their future is on becoming a dead person? Now, if they're successful they're going to look at what had been done by them, to create a new generation of mankind which is superior in its abilities, to the old, dead people; and the dead people should rejoice, in terms of what they represent, that the fact that they have a successor, which brings mankind to a higher rate of existence, a more blessed existence if you please.

And that's what the issue is, and that's where most people fail. They don't understand and don't recognize the significance of a legitimate death. By a legitimate death, I mean a death which has supplied another human being who is an improvement in their accomplishments of the deceased people. And that's what we got to look at. Mankind has to think about death. Mankind is susceptible to death. It's inherent. We have no knowledge of anybody, I mean, even Methuselah didn't make it, eventually.

So therefore, the question is what does mankind produce? We have examples, like Jeanne d'Arc.  And Jeanne d'Arc was a heroine, who tried to save civilization. And she was betrayed and she was killed, destroyed, cooked to death, and torn apart. But, despite that, Jeanne d'Arc actually, with her influence, post her death, had actually contributed to the process, and progress of mankind, had accomplished things. And other people in society, like Nicholas of Cusa, for example; people who made creations, where mankind would have failed.

And, therefore the problem here, as we must recognize, we can't take a fixed system and say somebody's dead. The question is we try to get our children and our adults, who are still living, to improve themselves in order to bring mankind to a higher level of achievement on behalf of mankind's duties, now. And there are many examples of this, but the fear of death by human beings, is one of the most dangerous things in human experience. As long as you can be confident that mankind who is going to die, or many of the persons who will die, will actually produce an improvement in mankind's knowledge and mankind's ability.

And on this occasion, on this deadly occasion which confronts us now in the United States and in Europe and across the whole planet, we're on the threat of a general thermonuclear war, which is occasioned by Barack Obama, who is the one figure right now who is the leader, in promoting a thermonuclear war which would virtually exterminate the entire human species, and that's right now. And therefore we should take our passion and put our passion into the necessity to prevent such things as Barack Obama from becoming a ruler in the coming days of our life.

Q:  Good afternoon, Lyn, this is A__. Earlier, a couple of days ago, I received an excerpt of an upcoming interview that's going to air on "60 Minutes," I believe tomorrow night, with this Charlie Rose character and President Putin.

And I just wanted to, before I go into what I want to express, just read very briefly this little snippet. When asked what he admires most about America, Putin's response was, "creativity, I liked the creativity," and Rose was like, "Creativity?"

Putin: "Certainly, when it comes to your tackling problems, their openness, and open-mindedness, because it allows them to unleash their inner potential of their people.  And thanks to that, America has attained such amazing results in developing their country."

So there's a real leader, who knows, obviously, a little bit more about American history and its effects throughout the world, when we were at our best, in those moments of revolution following Lincoln and FDR; and you have, of course the leadership of China coming into town, promoting peace, and again, creativity through the development of the BRICS process.

Now, on the Thursday call, I expressed to you the irony, and I loved your response, because we're trying to figure out how I can, how I've never been so uplifted at such a dangerous time, and find it easier than ever, to interact and exchange these ideas with people.

And I do believe that the Wall Street rallies, and the UN rallies are having an effect.  But it seems to me in our own organizing, and increasing the participation, both in our calls and at our meetings, we are not succeeding. So, where is the creativity that's being provided in one area of the world, and one focus of our operation, but appears to me to be not as successful as it should be now?

LAROUCHE:  Well, I think there is no reason to give in to that concern. Because, if we do the right thing, if we get at the right points of reference, which I just presented in the previous remarks; if you go in that direction, when you look at mankind, at the death of human beings, and ask yourself, what is the intention for providing human beings who can replace and supersede what was required of other people, later?  What guarantees do the human beings of this planet, living human beings, what right do they have to expect a better destiny for mankind than the one that is threatening us right now, through the presence of Obama?

Because the whole thing has been around that issue. Obama was on the verge of launching a thermonuclear war, within the realm of the United States. That was what he was committed to. And Putin blocked it! How did he block it? He moved to a different chain, and changed the subject, and got into a whole area which was not the European area in the ordinary sense. And this whole area, from Germany, and from other parts of Europe, began to respond to what Putin had done!

And therefore, the point is, on all points, we must always look for the progress of mankind, in the sense of the search for human immortality in those who will replace us when they have to replace us, on the assumption that they will have the ability as a group of people, as a society, to create a faculty of humanity in the future, or in the present into the future.

And it's that confidence which gives people the inspiration to devote their lives to what is before them, even when they are coming to face the threat of death.  And they are inspired by the fact that they have people, who are contributing to the development of a more advanced degree of development of society than they had ever known before.  Einstein, for example, is an example of that kind of person. He was the one man in the whole generation that he lived, who did not give in to Bertrand Russell: The only man who did not give in to that wretch, that Satanic figure, Bertrand Russell!

And the history of society is that the United States began to degenerate since Bertrand Russell took over in the end of the 19th century, his part of the 19th century. And therefore this is the mark, this is the mistake, which the United States population generally made, in response to the influence of the little Satan called Bertrand Russell.

And therefore it's our devotion to our attention of the future, the accomplished attention of the future, by future human beings, who will have outpaced the challenge given to earlier populations. And if you want to do something, while you're living now, become one of those people who actually pushes and forces, the future of mankind on the rest of the human population.

Q:  Hi Lyn, this M__ from Manhattan, and with the ever more visible complicity of the Pope in this man-made global warming fraud that's being perpetrated — by the way I thank J__ very much, because I think her question made me think of a few things; but to just add to her question, when we ask what's going on in this Pope's mind, is it in fact that this Pope, we would think being a relatively, if not highly educated individual, we would assume knowing with moral education the evil of the people like the Queen of England, Prince Philip, Schellnhuber, Obama, and these other people, that he is going tacitly going along with, has he in fact committed himself to this fraud, knowing it's a fraud?  Or is he just extremely ignorant, and simply pushing something he may think, erroneously is true, but in fact is not? Thank you, Lyn.

LAROUCHE: Well, the point is, he's frightened. He's obviously frightened. His whole career beforehand had no correspondence to this policy. So he gave in to Satan. That's what happened. That's the effect. Because everything he's done is to the benefit of Satan. So that's not a very good priest.

Q:  Good afternoon, Mr. LaRouche.  Hi this is E__ from the Bronx, New York. My question is, you've been saying all along that, due to the work of Kepler, the orbits of the planets in our Solar System are in harmony with our Classical music. But my question is, what about our galaxy, the Milky Way galaxy. There are close to 200 billion stars in our galaxy alone. Our Sun is just one of those stars. So, can we say that our galaxy is also in harmony with our Classical music here on Earth?

There may be other planets around other stars with different laws of the universe, with different harmonies, with different music that may be discordant to our Classical music. That is what my question really is. Is that, is our entire galaxy also in harmony with our Classical music as our Solar System is? That's my question, really. What are your thoughts about this?

LAROUCHE: Okay, I'll tell you my thoughts on the thing. I think it's sometimes a mistake to try to assume what the future of the Solar System or the galaxy actually means. We have no real access to prove those matters. What we have is the fact that mankind is able to discover principles on which mankind can act; mankind is qualified to act.  In this, for example, Kepler's discovery, which is a great discovery, because otherwise we wouldn't have known that there was a Solar System at all, really.

So, therefore, these scientific developments, are actually the discoveries which point out to mankind that mankind has an access, to influence powers in the Solar System and beyond, which have been beyond anything mankind could have previously accomplished, mankind himself. In other words, what we achieve, is what we make.  And what we are allowed to make, and enabled to make, is the discovery of principles in terms of the Solar System, in terms of the galaxy, and so forth.

So, it's our ability to move and direct the development of those and other bodies in the universe, and mankind's ability to create a new condition within the Solar System, within the galaxy. And that power of mankind, is typical of mankind's proper mission.

And if we can contribute to that, we are therefore empowered to make a contribution to the  future of mankind. And the whole thing is like the relationship between person and death. Human beings die. What is the thing that justifies those who have died? This is the most frightening thing, to most people. Very few people, except, really, people like the great theologians, have understood this:  That what mankind is empowered to do by discovery, is to enable mankind, to advance to a higher level of development, and thus improve even the Solar System and the galaxy. And we must be, as scientists, we must be the contributors to bring about those improvements in the galaxy. And it's a practical problem, but we've got to perfect, our efforts to make it work.

Q: Good afternoon, Mr. LaRouche, this is R__ from Brooklyn. I'd like to ask you a question about China and the U.S.. China and the U.S. have agreed to agree to disagree, as it were; in other words, not quite agree on everything, but totally disagree. Is this a sign of progress?

LAROUCHE: Yes, it is. I have some personal knowledge in this matter in terms of China. China is going through a process of achievement. Essentially, the marginal effect is, it is a great achievement, relative to the world at large; China has really made great steps.

Now China  was a nation which had poor problems, itself. Those problems, which you may call errors, have been not eliminated, but at least relieved to much degree.  And so now that China now is making progress, China has been making progress, and we can reasonably presume that it will continue to make progress.

And what we have to do, in the United States, we have to understand, that the lessons from China and from other cases like this, like India and so forth, the development of mankind,  we have to focus our attention on the means which are accessible to us, to cause mankind to utilize discoveries of principle which will solve the demand for the progress of mankind.

That is happening right now in China.  The situation in China is not perfect, but it's really remarkably good.

Q: Good afternoon, Lyn.  This is B_ from New Jersey.  We have now this ongoing process at the UN, which is, as many people have said, Helga particularly, this is a turning point, or could easily be a turning point for the better.  We're now seeing coming in to it a lot of motion going on, particularly with Europe breaking from Obama.  I watched a press conference at the White House, in which some of the reporters were calling for the evaluation for how the books had been cooked on the so-called strategy against ISIS and other terrorism.  And I think it's of particular importance that with the Syria thing Obama's clearly worked himself out on a limb on this, and a lot of people want to take advantage of this. And my thinking, I think we're hearing a kind of sawing going on.  And I'd like your thoughts on how we can coordinate that within the UN.  What do we see going on, where we can get people joining in on a lot of that sawing?

LAROUCHE:  Well there are a number of ways you can deal with that.  Just take one example.  There's an institution called Wall Street  It's rather infamous or famous, as you may choose, but it's there.  Now the fact about Wall Street is, Wall Street is dead; not dead in terms of moving, though there's some moving going among shuffling of feet and so forth in the Wall Street area.  But Wall Street has come to the terminal end of its own existence. It has come to that now.  What it's still pushing, trying to push some new imagination, some swindle, they call it the "easing" policy.  Wall Street says, "Easing, easing," which means cheating and stealing; and they keep doing that.  Now we've reached the point where Wall Street can no longer survive. And if we don't do something about it, if we operate within the acceptance of Wall Street's rule, then we're not going to survive.

The time has come to get Obama out of the White House entirely, immediately, and expose the fact that there is an absolute collapse of the presently existing economic system within the United States.  What we can do is take from a map of Franklin Roosevelt, President Franklin Roosevelt.  And Franklin Roosevelt introduced an institution and reforms which brought mankind into a higher state of existence, and he also eliminated what had been the earlier Wall Street system.  When Franklin Roosevelt died, the first attempt by Truman and company, was to go back to the pre-Franklin Roosevelt system and to try to destroy everything that Franklin Roosevelt had represented.  And it was the people from the Wall Street committee who did that. Truman was a traitor to the United States, in fact.  That was his role.

So therefore, these are the issues which we have to take into account.  We have to take into account, the fact that we have had as the United States, as a people, we have had the resources in our hands, if we had the will to use it, to have saved the United States from all the horrors that have occurred, since World War II.  And I'm one of the survivors of World War II, not in an important way, but in the experience that I had, in terms of this thing. And I know what I saw.

I had an occasion when I was coming into India, I was landing in India.  It was on the occasion of Franklin Roosevelt's death; and some fellow soldiers of mine came to me and said, "Can we talk to you in the evening?"  And I understood what they were talking about.  So we had a discussion, and I replied and said, "We've lived under a great President, Franklin Roosevelt.  This is the thing for which we must fight.  What he represented at the time of his death, is what he represented, and that's what we must represent."  Now I tried a lot to get some of my fellow soldiers and others to mobilize on the basis of that position, that policy.

Many people, including great Presidents and great generals, agreed with what I was thinking but they were defeated, often defeated. They became fewer and fewer, over the course of history.  The number of people who were American officials, and so forth, talented people, who were actually competent has been reduced greatly.

If you want to find a good person to lead society in the United States, you have to find some, of some very few people. Other people would like to do that, but they are denied the access of the means by which they could exert that kind of improvement.  And therefore, from my standpoint, I say,  "I am fighting, and others should be fighting to carry that position forth." We have to get Obama out of office quick, for the sake of the United States, but that's not where it starts.  We have to continue that effort in order to make the United States real again, to itself.

Q:  Hi, I'm E_ from Manhattan.  I have a problem on deployment when I distributing literature, and informing people what we're thinking and trying to say.  My favorite thing is usually to say, "Let's impeach Obama," but anyway, they go by, they don't stop, and they don't show any interest in anything. It's like they don't want to know. So I get so frustrated. Sometimes I curse them, or say things behind their back as they pass by.

What is your advice on how to get through to these people, who just don't seem to want to know anything?

LAROUCHE:  Well one thing I've been working on for some time is called Manhattan.  It's always been my experience was largely in Manhattan.  I was recruited at the time of World War II.  I was soon dragged into that.  My experience was largely located in Manhattan.  I then moved back into Manhattan at a later point.  I had an important position as a consultant and so forth; and that got bounced by the FBI.  I had a leading position, and so the FBI said, "Get you out of there.  We want dumb people.  We don't want smart people in our institutions."  So I've gone through that. And I understand these things fairly well, because I've had the opportunity to experience things in ways which are very useful to people, and which most people don't get a chance at.  And they threw me in jail, and they did other things to me, but they didn't break me.

So the point is, we do have the ability now, because of the angry people, in Manhattan.  And also because of another factor. What do you think is going to happen to Wall Street?  Wall Street is going to die!  And all those buildings which are occupied by Wall Street and related interest, are going to suddenly go bankrupt.  They're about to become bankrupt.  Now what can we do? We can go back to Franklin Roosevelt's method, in dealing with a similar problem in the 1930s.  And what he did was, shut down Wall Street.

Now what do you do when you shut down Wall Street?  Well Franklin Roosevelt knew what to do when you shut down Wall Street: Is you put in new institutions which are productive, instead of speculative.  And he made a recovery of the United States, and made the United States again a great power under his prompting of influence.  And people really swore by him, (not at him).

And therefore, we've come to a time where we have to recognize, that all right, we've got a lousy President; the worst, most lousy President we've probably ever had! The most evil one!  I can tell you, he's the most Satanic evidence ever in the government of the United States, the most Satanic.

And the only guy who compromised was his stepfather, who was also purely evil.  You have to know that Obama has a family record, of being pure evil.  He was less vigorous than his stepfather was, but he's just as bad as his stepfather, right now.  He was the Satan of the occasion.  And therefore, when we recognize that that's the thing that we have to get rid of:  We have to get rid of Wall Street, which is another form of Satan's manifestations, —  I guess its hooves, or something like that. But we get rid of that thing, Wall Street!

We create the idea of a system of credit, as Franklin Roosevelt used the idea of a system of credit, to reconstruct the economy and welfare of the American people.  We have to do the same thing, the same practice again.  When all those Wall Street towers collapse of bankruptcy, we're going to have to have a Franklin Roosevelt or the likeness, take over those buildings, kick the scum out of the buildings, clean them up a little bit, and use them for more appropriate purposes.

Q: Hi, this is A_ from New Jersey.  Even though I'm wearing a Russian T-shirt, I'm going to ask a question about Thailand. At the occasion of the completion of the second Suez Canal in Egypt, you recently issued a comment on Thailand's Kra Canal project.  I had the fortune to work on a documentary on this Kra Canal program, a couple of years ago and I would really love to see in my life the completion of the canal.  But at the same time, Egypt had fantastic leadership under el-Sisi to complete this canal in one year; but on the other hand, I see in Asia, for example Japan, just earlier this week, Prime Minister Abe rammed through reinterpretation of the Constitution which will allow Japan to deploy the military.  And I'm sure at this UN summit that kind of pressure to force more chaos in Asia-Pacific will increase if we don't stop it.  So, I want you to elaborate on your perspective on Kra Canal, and how we can push that kind of project, and bring the United States into a real Pacific partnership?

LAROUCHE:  Well, what happened, at a certain point in my life, I was associated with some people in Japan, who were scientific people in Japan.  And they were also people in the maritime activities of Japan, because Japan in coming out of the postwar period, actually began to develop maritime capabilities throughout the Pacific and beyond.  And this worked.

Now, my involvement in Japan in that connection, which I spent a number of seasons on, brought me into Thailand; and I spent a great deal of time in that period, in Thailand.  I was associated with the government circles of Thailand.  And what we came, with the cooperation between Japan's industrial and scientific influence, and what we had planned, was the Kra Canal policy, which meant, there's sort of a shallow, dirt strip, separating one part of Thailand from the other part.  And if you cut through that dirt canal, which also has mineral values in it, you would now enter into the Indian Ocean! And when you go into the Indian Ocean from  Thailand, you now have suddenly, with Egypt, with its second canal, you have now created a new organization of trade and development throughout the planet.

It's a revolution. And it's very important that we get that revolution in place.  It's a very shallow piece of dirt to cut; and on that there's some very valuable minerals, which can be salvaged.  So you can build up a canal, on the surface, with very little resistance relatively speaking, as canals go; and this canal would revolutionize the Asian area; the entire Asian region, would benefit.

This new canal, cut in there, will open up trade beyond anything that'd been possible, in the southern waters.  And it would be an international trade, which would feed back into the United States and into South America, as well.  So this is a nice little miracle, which is sitting there, waiting to be invited to play.

Q: [strong accent]  Good afternoon Mr. LaRouche, M__K__ from Queens.  My question: We are the ordinary people, what can we expect from the UN General Assembly?

LAROUCHE:  That's a big question isn't it?  Because we haven't got the answer yet, about what the result is going to be. Now, I would presume, that the intention of President Putin of Russia, would be to do everything possible to get Obama in a tizzy.  That is, it already has happened to a certain degree. Obama suddenly made a change, or what appeared to be a change in his policy.  And suddenly, Obama freaked out! Because he thought he'd been swindled.  He's enraged, absolutely enraged!

You have to know what Obama is:  This man's stepfather was one of the biggest mass murderers, in the southern waters, internationally; and the stepson followed his stepfather's training.  The son was not quite as aggressive as the stepfather had been, but since recent times, Obama has become a true echo of his evil stepfather.

And therefore that's where problem lies.  We're going to have to get rid of what Obama represents. Now, it's very easy to do, in law, because he deserves to be thrown out of office, and there are many reasons for throwing him out of office.  There are more opportunities to throw him out of office than he has lives. So therefore, get rid of this guy, dump him.

He was a British creation, anyway; the whole thing, Obama was part of this Asia part operation; his stepfather was his master.  He's a true copy of his stepfather, who was an evil man, a mass murderer, and a very evil man, and he has the same characteristics, still today.  Just think of the number of people that Obama has killed:  People on the record, who were arbitrarily killed by the order of Obama.  Not because they were guilty of anything, not because there were actual changes against them.  But Obama wanted to kill them.  He killed little boys; he killed young people generally.  He kills, kills, kills, kills!

He terrifies the people inside his own administration; he's a tyrant.  He's a man of intrinsic evil.  If we can remove this President from his office, I guarantee you that the future of mankind will be greatly improved, relatively speaking.

Q: [follow-up] I have another question:  The UN has more than 160 countries, but you talk only about Putin and Obama. Why?

LAROUCHE:  Because that's the crux issue.  That's the point that will decide the future of all mankind:  The conflict between Putin and Obama, will decide the fate of the human race throughout all the planet.

Q: [follow-up] I have another question.  So we cannot give respect to other countries? We could not respect the people of the other countries?

SPEED:  So the question is, if that's true, we can't expect anything from other countries?

Q: [follow-up] Yes.

LAROUCHE:  That's not true.  Because other countries will be inspired, by the overthrow of Obama. [laughter, applause]

Q: [follow-up] How can you protect the many spare people? There are many spare people, how can you protect the spare people?

SPEED:  Oh, how are you going to inspire people?  I think he actually answered that.

LAROUCHE:  By doing exactly what I said.

Q:  Hi Lyn, my name is A__.  I just had a general question on going into the next week, in organizing in the UN, because we are coming across a lot of diplomats, a  lot of organizations affiliated with the UN, that are like really interested in our initiative, you know U.S. joining BRICS, let alone their countries [joining BRICS].  And it's interesting, just the previous question, it is the case a lot of these countries that do come over to our table, they're not part of the BRICS; they're Third World nations, but they're very interested in our initiative.  But, it's like a general question:  How can we escalate the next coming week, in organizing these people in the UN?

LAROUCHE:  Well, you're going to get an answer to that, in a sense, by the headlong conflict between Obama and Putin.  And China is also involved in this already.  Other people, other nations are also involved in this issue right now.  So this is not an isolated case.

The point is, getting Obama thrown out of office, is the most essential thing, that could be done, now, by anybody or anywhere. Get rid of this guy.  The next thing, we get rid of the Saudi empire.  And once you've got Obama thrown out, then you go out and you close down that empire, the Saudi empire, which is one of the worst afflictions, of the planet.  But Obama is worse. So we get Obama out of the way first, and then we go and clean up Saudi Arabia.  And then we can clean up some other things after that.

But the people of the United States and the world in general, are terrified people by and large.  They are not warriors.  They may have equipment of warfare, but they're not warriors by instinct, and therefore, you have to do some coaching, to muster people into doing what has to be done for mankind.  And what happens?  Everybody looks right now at the world, for example, at Putin.  "Ah! There's Putin!  Ah, he's a courageous guy!  He's going to take on this, he's going to take that; he's the guy to go to."  He's the guy who went to some of the issues there, and so he's considered the guy to go to.  And other people say, "Oh, yes, we're also involved in this, we're very much supporting of this thing.  And so you have a great number of people and nations who are willing to stand by and say, "Oh yeah, I'm all for Putin."  [laughter]  But, who's going to support him?  Who's going to deliver the goods, shall we say? And that's the problem.

But my view is, in my experience, if you — as were already doing — you have to look at the change that occurred within the nations of Europe, since recently. Suddenly, everybody had been hating Putin, officially;  nations across the trans-Atlantic region, had been hating Putin!  Then, suddenly, one day, the ruling forces in Germany said, "Oh, no!  this guy is very useful. He's saving people's lives; he's intervening to defend people's lives.  Oh, he's a good guy!"  And that's the way it works!

So what happens is, somebody does something, an act of courage, and somebody else says, "Oh!  Now I see what you meant!" And that's the way you have to look at it.  People are not intrinsically courageous; and they are hesitant.  They don't like to be courageous.  But anyone who's gone through war, you know, actual war, knows what this is like, what war is like.  War is scary!

I was never in much danger in my military service; it was very limited.  I was assigned to my duties and I performed my duties, in various parts of the world.  But most people don't have the guts to win wars; and if they do it, they often do it with their nerves are on stress.  So don't demand too much of people.  If you can push people into recognizing that perhaps they could survive, against something which they know to be evil, they may, with some hesitation, actually mobilize themselves to change the way things are going.

Q:  Good afternoon, Mr. LaRouche.  I feel like you're a genie.  We come here on Saturday afternoon, and get a nice boost in the arm for real truth.  My name is J__ and my question is based on Boehner's resignation [as House Speaker] and wondering what your insights and the fallout from his resignation is?

LAROUCHE:  Well, the problem is, is it's a simple case, actually, if you look at it.  Boehner has many problems; but the worst problem he had was his own organization.  And also, in general, the Congress was his enemy in that sense.  Because there was no one in the Congress, yet, — there are a few people I know, who have the guts to do what has to be done; there are other people who would come, to support an effective approach to deal with this problem.  But don't blame Boehner too much; he's a poor case.  He's not the kind of guy you want to defend. But you have to understand this, that most of the people in the Congress, today, including the Senate, like Boehner, and they really have no guts in them, and they have very little competence and no guts.  And that's part of our problem.

But Trump, for example; now Trump is something you could burn in barrel or something like that, except the smell would be too strong.  But in any case, in general, the quality of the members of the Senate in general, stinks!  They ain't fit for nuthin'.  And in the House you get a similar kind of thing.  The House is probably not as polluted as the Senate is.  We call it the Senile. [laughter]

And we do need a change.  But! the lesson of history is, suddenly you say, well, so-and-so is a great guy; then somebody comes along and says, "wait a minute, he's not a great guy, he's a louse!  He's a coward!  He's a  gutless wonder.  What're you talking about?"

"Oh, yeah, I guess you're right." [laughter]

And that's what the problem is.  So in dealing, in politics in general, politicians are not known for their courage, or for their probity; they are not known; they are generally, at worst, opportunists, otherwise stupid.  And the only thing you can do with them, is you can encourage them, with a kick in the relevant part of the organ, and they will turn around when they got kicked — "Oh, yes!  Oh, yes!  I guess I agree!"

But the problem is, the quality of our members of the Senate is poor.

Q: [follow-up]  Would you say Boehner's resignation leaves an open path to some other events occurring that might show that collapse is occurring in some way, shape or form?  Or...?

LAROUCHE:  I think he walked out of it; he didn't want to get in the cross-fire.  He just wanted to get plain out.  He wanted to scat.

Now the problem is that nothing's been solved.  Because he's been scatted, but who's going to deal with the thing?  Because if I look at the rest of what's there, what he left behind when he quit, there's very  poor quality service.

The only way you're going to get that, is you're going to have to move the American people in a ways which will intimidate members of Congress, and scare the hell out of them.  and that's what we have to do.  How're you going to scare the hell out of them?  You can tell what's going to happen here, in New York, in Manhattan, if this thing goes right, you'll scare the hell out of them! Because they're opportunists, and opportunists will often jump around and change their tune, not because of moral concern, but our pure opportunism.

Q: [follow-up]  So confidence would be a great factor that would enhance this movement here in Manhattan?

LAROUCHE:  Yes! Yes, quite!  [laughter]

Q: Thank you for taking my question.  My name is M__B__, and I'd like to ask you — you may have answered this already, about two people before; but eventually Russia seems destined to be the main link in Eurasia politically and economically.  They're already there geographically.  But all the things that have happened in the past week, in Vladivostok, and the parade in China, and also Merkel agreeing to stop being an echo chamber for the West there about her agreement about Assad being put in.  Do you see any other European power that might eventually leave the NATO pact, at least verbally and sort of come behind Putin, and any other shift that you see there?

LAROUCHE:  Well, there are two things that can be said about that, on that subject.  First of all, that Putin is a unique figure.  Now I've had a lot of activity, with people, a post-system operations with Russia.  In other words, I was not part of the old system, the old Russian system; but I was part of the new system, what was left over from the older one.  And I was associated with a group of people in Russia which came to me and asked for me to make my contributions to policymaking, for Russia to get out of the mess it had been dumped into.  The whole Soviet system had collapsed, it disintegrated, gone!  So there were some people who were trying to deal with that problem, that ménage.

And I was brought into this, to visit Russia; I was invited by some Russians to do that.  I conducted a lot of interventions at various points in Russia, and the last contact I really had of any significance, in causing Russian policy, was when Putin, at the same time that I was operating on this thing, Putin had started his big campaign, to free Russia of the conditions of Russia at that time.  And that has been a relatively long period of time.

So there have been ups and downs.  In the meantime, I've had very little contact with Russia in general, because of my own health conditions and so forth.  But in terms of principle, Putin has recreated Russia.  I don't want to make that a statement of exaggeration; it's simply that he was the guy, who as a leader within Russia under those conditions, dealing with a particular problem, has persisted in defending Russia, with increasing effectiveness over that period of time.  And has also made contributions to other nations, cooperation with other nations, and the programs to try to defend nations against certain problems.

So that's the way you have to look at it.  This is not a streak of genius in itself:  Putin has really worked, over a period of his lifetime, since I knew what his operation was; since I began to know his operation.  And now it's of that stage, and he's now become that absolutely indispensable factor, in Europe and the trans-Atlantic region, particularly, to get the world out of this mess.  And you see that, you see what the operation is; you see the changes:  Germany, France, for example; the importance of China, the importance of India.  All these things are part of this great movement, which is centered on Putin.

Now, he's not just some great genius in the ordinary sense of that remarkable case.  He's a practical man, an impassioned man, and who remembers deeply that many members of his family died in defending the very lives of their family in then, the capital of Russia, the Soviet Union.  And that legacy has been picked up, finally, by Putin.  And Putin has been the one person from Russia, who in the course of the development of his own career has built Russia into a force, tied to China, tied to India, tied to other parts of the planet, and they're doing good. They're doing Russian good; it's Russian-style, Russian good. And that's there!

Right now, Putin is the most important figure, in ensuring the possibility that Obama will be thrown out of office. Because if Obama is not thrown out of office, and you know his history and his stepfather's history before then, what's happened now, what Putin has done with these current events in Manhattan, now, may have saved civilization.  If Putin is successful against Obama, that may be the salvation of civilization; not because he's a great warrior, but because his role, at a crucial point, is that important.

Q: [follow-up]  I have one other question.  I've been reading a lot about monetary system, and I've heard talk of it, but certainly not enough; and it becomes clear to me that these boom and bust cycles, are sort of like travelling companions, with debt-created money; and they leave always like this terrible wake behind them.  So I was wondering, do you think the monetary system needs to be completely overhauled, and can a new social-economic system come forward, without baggage of the failed -isms, capitalism, social liberalism, etc.?  Do you have any thoughts on that; or is that even a viable question?

LAROUCHE:  No, of course, it's a very important question. We in the United States had a system of government, which was very poor for the first four Presidencies, or the second row of Presidencies, were a failure.  Then we had a great President and he had one term in office and he was kicked out.  And fortunately, he had a job in the Congress, and from the Congress, he led, again, what led to Abraham Lincoln's taking of power, following him; in other words, without him — and without Hamilton and others as well, you wouldn't have had a United States.

So these kinds of things have happened; and we've come to a point where, we have access to options, which in the United States itself, typified by Franklin Roosevelt's Presidency, and some other people who tried to do the same thing for the United States.  And we had to fight in the United States, against the money launderers, the money angels, the money devils; and you know, the FBI is one of the main instruments which has destroyed the options and conditions of life of the American citizen.

So if we can get rid of Obama, since Obama is now sunk deeply, into what that represents, we can change that system too. And bring back something to build.  Just think of what we're dealing with:  All the time, ever since the beginning of the 20th century, there has been continual destruction, deterioration of the conditions of life of the citizens of the United States. Some people have been rich, some people not rich, some people increasingly destitute, in one sense or another.  So the United States has been destroyed, by what has happened to that effect.

And Obama is the worst effect which the United States has ever experienced.  Because he's a global pest.  He's a man of Satanic evil, intrinsically Satanic evil, like his stepfather who has also trained his stepson in the arts of Satanic evil.  He was brought into the Presidency, as an agent of Satanic evil.

So therefore, our problem is simpler, if Obama goes down, then we're freed, to start the United States.  Because at the same time, Wall Street is going down!  And the only answer we have in terms of history, is Franklin Roosevelt's case, of his achievement, his success.  And what we have to do now, is take the model of what Franklin Roosevelt as President, did, in his achievements; not among the Republicans; the Republicans were a real pestilence, then and now, generally; there are exceptions, of course.

But, no, this is the time has come when we throw Obama out of office, quickly, and the United States has a chance to begin a recovery program.  But you have to look at what's going on in the United States; how many people in the United States are being stripped, ground into dirt, inside the United States?  And who's done it?  Well, the latest case is, Obama.  Obama has been the greatest killer, of Americans, on record today.

Q:  Hi, Lyn.  Hi.  This is M__ from Manhattan.  And it struck me as you were speaking now, that I had this kind of very extraordinary experience today, standing, in a place that I do not like, Times Square — with all of our friends here.  And I was so impressed with not only do we have the same red, white, and blue colors, Russia and the United States; and the knowledge that I've had through reading so much of your literature and my own interest in things, of the history of the friendship between Russia, starting with Catherine the Great, through Abraham Lincoln and the Tsar; why, hell, we helped them win the war in the Crimea!  Because we sent those engineers over there, and they built Ironsides ships and what have you and the like.

And it took that miserable, miserable throwing of the bombs on Japan that split us. And Churchill and all that he was doing and putting in there.  And it was also FDR that gave Iran back to Iran, said, we're not backing your baby in Africa; it was FDR who said, either you sign back to this Pahlavi fellow, or that's it.

So I was thinking all these things, as I was watching the friendship among these young men and women, with our young people, and how American they are!  That's the thing that really struck me.  And later, I was watching Daniel [burke] speak with the fellows, and all the different television people interviewing, and Emma standing there; and Chris went finally, and he said, "I got to get an American flag."  And he went to get a an American flag somewhere, because we didn't have an American flag; and they all had these Russian flags in red, white, and blue.

And then, I began to look at these large, huge pieces of paper with huge print, and on it was written, "the words of," and at the bottom, it said, "Vladimir Putin."  Wait a minute... what's he talkin' about God for?  What's he talkin' about — our children, and things that you are referring to, with his history. And I thought, "I thought he was a dyed in the wool Commie, you know!"  Well, this is not the man, at all, that's been presented to us!  This is somebody different, and I think we should — we have those papers and what was written on them, and we should put that out in our literature; and maybe in large signs, when we're telling Pope Francis about God and the Bible.  This is something that I think American people might like to be able to see the actual words of Vladimir Putin.

The fact, of course, also, I noticed the difference between in Times Square, the people are out of their mind, they're in a maze, they're in a glaze-maze; it's just like exactly what I feel standing there, thinking, "yeah, I really sang on Broadway.  Do really want to do this?  Look at this place!"  It was as if Bloomberg invented this to keep us in a constant chaotic, mixed-up mindset.

But!  I was thinking at the same time, when we were at the United Nations, I would just like to say that so many of those nations — one fellow we met who was a military expert, analyst from Zimbabwe, for instance; and they are much more in touch with the situation, with our President Obama, and they are not nearly so affected as the fact that he is the first quote/unquote, obvious, African American (well, he's not an African American) President with African history.  And their intelligence, and how interested they are in what it is that we have to say.  So, I think there is real hope there.

And what this young lady was saying here before about Thailand and the Kra Canal; there was a woman there at the United Nations, she took our literature and all of that, she was really excited about that canal had to be built.

And I must say, that what you just described, thank you so much, made me understand so thoroughly how much that canal has to be built.  And then, when I think, Egypt built this the extra Suez Canal or whatever and it's taken us forever to do this Second Avenue Subway [laughter] —  say to myself, "wow! We're really behind the times, here! We got to get going."

But in the meantime, I had this unusual experience, after Chris got this tiny little American flag, and I said, wait a minute, the fire department might have one.  So, you know the whole thing you were talking about, giving them hell, and you were talking about on the Thursday night broadcast about the people that did 9/11, that brought those buildings down on our children, down on our loved ones, they have never been punished! No!

And I said to myself, "wait a minute, I'm going to go to the fire department."  My dad was 40 years in the fire department; he was Ladder 10.  I'm so glad he did not stand there and watch those buildings come down because he had finally passed on at 84 years of age.  And I walked over to 48th Street and 8th Ave. (with Chris giving me the instructions), and I thought "how am I going to get into this fire department?  Boy it's really shut, but the trucks are in there."  So I rang the bell. So, I'm standing there, this old gal with white hair ringing the bell, and this handsome young man opens the door, and we get talking; and I told him, I want to borrow an American flag, did he have one he could give me?  And I brought our literature to show him: Dick Cheney there, and the 9/11 report, and this thing on the United Nations, to show that this is authentic.  "We'll bring it back in one hour, if you could give me a nice, big flag."

"Well, would you believe, Ma'am, we have to buy these flags and they're attached to the truck and we don't have any flag, except what's in a big frame." So, I said, "well that'll never do."  And then I said to him, "Do you know about the 28 pages? Do you have any idea that women and the people that lost their loved ones" — and they have this memorial in front of this particular fire department, because they seem to have lost everybody — and I said, "I'd like you to read our literature, and maybe we should start to demand to get those 28 pages out, that Obama will not show because the Saudis did it; and we're holding hands and sucking up to the Saudis, and ripping the Middle East apart." And I told him about the Irishman, Gen. Michael Flynn — and then I had this idea:  Isn't it possible, for us to go actually in person, the different fire departments, especially in Manhattan and in Brooklyn, where they lost — they lost their men!

I must say this, I have to tell you, back in May, I was doing with a Gifted and Talent Class, a visit to the fire department up on 105th St., and I had my dad's fire hat with me, Ladder 10, it said.  And I was chanting that nothing happened to these wonderful men; they were so wonderful with these children. And it had Ladder 10 on it, and all of them, and I have to say, that fire department came out, and nothing happened to them.  And Ladder 10, their truck was smashed, there you saw it in the front of the Daily News and the New York Post, and I said, "Oh my goodness, lookit, Dad drove that truck for 40 years, it's smashed!" And they couldn't believe it:  Every one of the men from Ladder 10 walked out alive.

So there's hope: We can just muster it up and pray out to the Universe! To the Galaxy, to all the planets, that we are going to save this world and this nation.  And I want to thank you so much.

And let's get on the backs of the police and the firemen that lost their loved ones, because they need to really participate more with us.  Thank you.  [applause]

LAROUCHE:  [laughs] Good!  Energetic.

Q:  Good afternoon, Mr. LaRouche.  I'm B__ from New York.  I have a quick question and I want you to elaborate on the opportunity to restore the Constitution.  Because, I respect the Constitution, I mostly carry it with me all the time; and I've started to really get into more than ever.  But it seems to me that legislation that's supposed to be legislating to uphold the Constitution are doing what they're supposed to do in terms of the Constitution.  They swear the oath, "to defend and protect the Constitution," but yet, I see little of it.

Can you elaborate on that, and the opportunity for restoring of the Constitution?

LAROUCHE:  Well, it would be a novelty, you know, to restore it.  I'm all for doing that novelty.  I think the novelty must come into play, quickly.

And all you have to do, really to do that, is campaign for the causes, which have been betrayed.  All you have to do, is get out there and organize.  And I think right now, in Manhattan, Manhattan is really a bonanza of opportunity, for convincing people in New York City in particular, to get their guts back together and do something about these things.

I mean, people should be proud of New York City.  And they should be given a reason to be proud of New York City.  The two things are not dispensable.  I think we can do it.

Q: [follow-up] That's for sure.  Thank you.

Q: Hi Lyn, it's M__from New Jersey.  I'm going to actually ask a question that's not about Manhattan.  I was real happy Thursday night [during the Fireside Chat] to hear you say it was time to bring down Jerry Brown.  And I was reflecting on the fact that this guy, Brown, was brought in by virtue of the Enron scam run against the state of California; they ran a really sneaky operation to recall the governor, who was a perfectly adequate guy, I think; they brought in this monster Schwarzenegger, who then crushed all of the institutions, the nurses, the teachers, what have you, who were actually the basis on the idea of that government serves the society!

And so it seems to me this mirrors what has happened to the country, because you've got this Presidential election going on, and it's terrible. So my question is, do you see this, I think, necessary process of getting rid of this bum, Jerry Brown, as part of a very healthy process by which we bring back the nation? And do you see that as something we should take the lead on?

LAROUCHE:  Well, you have, for example, just to review the evidence, we had a Governor Brown before Schwarzenegger, and that Governor Brown was a good governor; that is, the actions he promoted — he was a Catholic.  The other Brown, now, also claims to be a Catholic.  Hmm?  So he claims to be!  But it's not worth much, because what he's doing, when his policy is mass murder. And I don't think that mass murder is a qualification for a governor, including a nominally Catholic governor, of California. I think that that point, has to be rubbed in.

And it would work.  It would work that way.  This thing is vulnerable.  People are intimidated and they often support things, by which they are intimidated!  And therefore, they say "I want to be favored, I want to be accepted, I want to be accepted; OK, I'll kiss your butt, if you accept me," and so forth.  It's what happens, essentially.

People don't have their own opinion, they don't have their own ideas, they don't have their own identity.  And maybe we can, by Manhattan and radiating from other places, we can probably generate, more popularity for this kind of cause; and get rid of the phony ones. [applause]

SPEED:  Obviously what's happened we now have a much more cohesive situation:  We've got an organizing situation.  It's now 4:30 and I'm going to ask Lyn to conclude.  I just want to point out the following:  We've been doing a lot this week; we're going to be doing a lot more the following week, and we're going to need everybody here involved, and everybody else you can help get involved.  But I think what's important, that Lyn kept emphasizing, it's important, this idea about the numbers.

Because it came up earlier, Alvin brought it up.  It wasn't numbers as such, but the issue is, "what does it take..?"  And I think what it takes is, exactly what Lyn, you were doing: Because you had a lot of funny answers today;  they were really — they were hilarious.  But not just funny!  They were hilarious because they were so true.  Because this issue of courage and showing courage in a situation of crisis like this one, where you've actually got world leadership that will respond to Americans that have the guts to deal with Obama, that is a situation which is truly rare, and it's one that we can take great advantage of.

So Lyn, I'd just like you to say whatever you have in conclusion for us, and we'll be finished.

LAROUCHE:  I think what I started with, in my first remarks today, is where I would like to begin, and continue; is, that's the situation.  We have a normal situation, we also have — should have — the understanding that what we have to do to effect that decision.  And I've tried to stress in my remarks today so far, I've tried to put the emphasis on various themes which coincide with that principle.  And I think, from what I have done today, I think that defines the package, which is the completion of my intention for this day.

SPEED:  OK.  We want to thank you very much, Lyn. [applause] And that's our conclusion for today.  We have Music Evening right after this event, and we invite everybody here to come to that.

In addition, we're now going to go to our implementation for the week to make sure everybody is aware of the array of events that are now before us....

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        

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